---

 [ ARCHIVE ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive)

#  A Study Only LA’s City Council Could Love

October 18 2012

Written by Paul Hatfield.

<a class="a2a_button_facebook"></a><a class="a2a_button_twitter"></a><a class="a2a_button_email"></a><a class="a2a_button_print"></a>[](https://www.addtoany.com/share)

![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/stories/Oct-2012/cw1084b.png)PERSPECTIVE - One of the most telling statements in favor of pension reform appeared in [**Rick Orlov’s article**](http://www.dailynews.com/ci_21780399/ex-los-angeles-mayor-richard-riordans-pension-reform?IADID=Search-www.dailynews.com-www.dailynews.com) in the Los Angeles Daily News on October 15. It concerned an actuarial review authorized by Chief Administrative Officer Miguel Santana to study a possible shift in the city’s pension plans to a 401(k) style system. The conclusion was it would cost the city even more than the current system – that was the claim.

According to the study, the city would still be liable for the benefits due workers covered by the existing system without assistance from contributions of new city workers, who would be covered under a 401k plan backed by former Mayor Richard Riordan in a ballot measure.

The math is correct – funding would be short – but the conclusion is deceptive.

The actuaries’ conclusion is an admission of just how underfunded the current plan is. A plan that depends on contributions from future generations of workers to fund the benefits of current employees is doomed to eventually run out of assets. It is the same problem Social Security faces, but with one big difference – the federal government can create money; the city cannot.

Not to digress, but even the feds will have to raise contributions and reduce and freeze benefits for the Social Security System in order to assure solvency.

Even if Los Angeles did not migrate to a 401k plan, the reduced workforce means less money flowing into the retirement plans, further straining funding levels.

Assuming the [**optimistic earnings assumption of 7.75%**](http://phinvv.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/outsourcing-objectivity-and-judgment/) panned out, the taxpayers would have to contribute more and more to pay for future benefits – that’s assuming they would be willing to do so.

The prospects of the City Council convincing them to pay more would be slim, especially with only diminishing services to show for the money.

The actuaries are making a specious argument in favor of the existing plan. It is as if you were to run on a treadmill set for an ever-increasing speed. In the long-run, you will be unable to keep pace and land flat on the floor.

The study is just the type city officials love. It misleads the public into believing that the status quo is sound, but what it really proves is the certainty of a slow death (maybe not so slow). The city will be dead and buried after the current crop at City Hall are collecting their benefits – for some, like Dennis Zine, double benefits.

The city’s unions will pour millions into fighting Riordan’s proposed charter amendment.

Now that Rick Caruso is not going to run for mayor, maybe he can help the former mayor’s cause with a few dollars. He would be performing an important public service.

*(Paul Hatfield is a CPA and serves as Treasurer for the Neighborhood Council Valley Village. He blogs at Village to Village, contributes to CityWatch and can be reached at: phinnoho@aol.com)* –cw

CityWatch
Vol 10 Issue 84
Pub: Oct 19, 2012

 [ ![Brian Goldsmith Vertical R. Col](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/ADS%20FOR%202026/brian-goldsmith%20AD.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/115 "Brian Goldsmith Vertical R. Col")

 [ ![save up to 4000 on used evs](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/LADWP/dwp%20ev%20ad2.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/107 "LA DWP | Save $4K, Green | Priority Ad")

 [ ![McKinney Campaign](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/ADS%20FOR%202026/McKinney%20City%20Watch%20Ad_final.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/114 "McKinney Campaign")

 [ ![LA DWP #2 (Power Savers)](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/LADWP/2026%20LADWP%20PowerSavers%20300x250.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/82 "LA DWP #2 (Power Savers)")

 [ ![Donna Tryfman](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/ADS%20FOR%202026/Donna-Tryfman-Ad-Final-Complete-Border-White-Margin.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/98 "Donna Tryfman - HS1-1")

 [ ![Pay Water Bill Help](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/LADWP/dwp%20-%20cares-ad.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/97 "Home - LA DWP #2 (Pay Water Bill Help)")

 [ ![David DeJute Campaign](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/ADS%20FOR%202026/DejuteAd.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/111 "David DeJute Campaign")

 [ ![Anna Reitano Vertical R. Col](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/ADS%20FOR%202026/reitano%20vertical%20rework.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/112 "Anna Reitano Vertical R. Col")

 ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/banners/signup-for-cw.png)

## Get The News In Your Email Inbox Mondays & Thursdays

 Message

 [ ![Rhonda Haymon](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/ADS%20FOR%202026/rhonda%20haymon%20for%20judge.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/113 "Rhonda Haymon campaign")

 [ ![something you should know, podcasts](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/images/banners/something%20you%20should%20know2.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/component/banners/click/110 "Something You Should Know")

 ---

##  Featured CityWatch Stories

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/96/086d-96c5ee15.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/election-2024/33624-prosecutor-democrat-city-attorney-mckinney-makes-his-case-to-los-angeles-voters)

### [Prosecutor, Democrat, City Attorney? McKinney Makes His Case to Los Angeles Voters](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/election-2024/33624-prosecutor-democrat-city-attorney-mckinney-makes-his-case-to-los-angeles-voters)

ELECTION 2026 - The race for LA City Attorney has been laced with political accusations and allegations that when close…

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/ef/083a-eff2fa50.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/la-watchdog/33544-the-la-watchdogs-2026-voters-guide-2)

### [The LA Watchdog’s 2026 Voter Guide](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/la-watchdog/33544-the-la-watchdogs-2026-voters-guide-2)

LA WATCHDOG - My recommendations are influenced by the need for truly balanced budgets, fiscal responsibility, long ter…

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/2f/086g-2fe97089.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/los-angeles/33626-the-fools-blame-game)

### [The Fools’ Blame Game](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/los-angeles/33626-the-fools-blame-game)

THE VIEW FROM HERE - Angelenos do not use elections to plot a wiser course of conduct for Los Angeles, but rather they…

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/cb/086f-cb06a60b.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/los-angeles/33619-california-film-tax-credits-arent-enough-the-guilds-need-to-change-too)

### [California Film Tax Credits Aren’t Enough. The Guilds Need to Change Too.](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/los-angeles/33619-california-film-tax-credits-arent-enough-the-guilds-need-to-change-too)

LONNIE’S VIEW - California used to be the center of the movie and television universe. If you wanted to make movies, yo…

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/bc/087l-bc8ba04f.jpg) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/voices/33648-heres-what-zionisms-got-to-do-with-it)

### [Here’s What Zionism’s Got To Do With It](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/voices/33648-heres-what-zionisms-got-to-do-with-it)

ICAN - The anonymous website “BHUSD Watch” recently published a long, detailed article about the current BHUSD board an…

---

##  [ ARCHIVE ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive)

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/d4/034e-d424a385.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/15339-early-intervention-and-jobs-are-key-to-stemming-chronic-homelessness-in-los-angeles)### [Early Intervention and Jobs are Key to Stemming Chronic Homelessness in Los Angeles](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/15339-early-intervention-and-jobs-are-key-to-stemming-chronic-homelessness-in-los-angeles)

### [Tucker Carlson and Gay Rightwinger Blame California Wildfires On Hiring LGBTQ People](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/18755-tucker-carlson-and-gay-rightwinger-blame-california-wildfires-on-hiring-lgbtq-people)

### [Anti-LGBTQ Veep Just Can’t Stop Talking about Mayor Pete](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/17690-anti-lgbtq-veep-just-can-t-stop-talking-about-mayor-pete)

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/26/033j-26aa2dd8.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/15316-news-pulse-corrupt-system-reason-for-not-voting-in-2018-majority-wants-more-than-two-parties)### [NEWS PULSE: ‘Corrupt System’ Reason for Not Voting in 2018 … Majority Wants More Than Two Parties](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/15316-news-pulse-corrupt-system-reason-for-not-voting-in-2018-majority-wants-more-than-two-parties)

 [ ![](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/media/yootheme/cache/08/1404d-08c93632.png) ](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/10245-dead-dog-set-on-fire-sparks-fears-for-strays-in-los-angeles)### [Dead Dog Set on Fire … Sparks Fears for Strays in Los Angeles](https://ded2209.inmotionhosting.com/~citywa9/archive/10245-dead-dog-set-on-fire-sparks-fears-for-strays-in-los-angeles)
