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# Maybe Trump and Giuliani are the Patsies, Not the Masterminds!
February 06 2020
Written by Eric J Scholl.
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**CITYWATCH TODAY**--Perhaps understandably, [this part of what is said to appear in Bolton’s book](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html), hasn’t been widely covered yet. According to the New York Times, Bolton asserts nobody in Trump’s orbit had a bone to pick with now ousted U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, not Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, not Bolton himself. *Except* Trump’s private lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Which leads Bolton to conclude, according to the Times:
***“*Giuliani may have been acting on behalf of other clients*”.***
On top of that, Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Eliot Engel (D) NY, just now said he spoke to Bolton just a few days after Trump fired him, and [Bolton urged the Congressman to investigate the circumstances around the recall of U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch](https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/2020/1/engel-statement-on-september-23-2019-call-with-john-bolton):
*“*He strongly implied that something improper had occurred around her removal*”.*
The White House is now suggesting it will try to block publication of Bolton’s book contending, as President Trump puts it, it’s all: “[Classified National Security](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1222496715422433281)”.
So since we may not get more details for a while, (or it may be a bluff until the impeachment process is over), let’s use what’s already out there from Bolton (via the Times) as a launching point to do some conspiracy theorizing of our own today…
Giuliani was and is working privately for Trump, for free. Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman (who are both now indicted) were at least working in Trump’s interests, apparently taking direction from Giuliani, if not directly from the President. However, as we’ve pointed out before, Parnas [paid Giuliani at one point, not the other way around](https://medium.com/@ericjscholl/if-rudy-giulianis-not-getting-paid-by-trump-then-who-paid-his-henchmen-800aead79c40).
But Trump wasn’t paying any of them. So who was? *Nobody knows*. [(Read the rest.) ](https://medium.com/@ericjscholl/maybe-trump-and-giuliani-are-the-patsies-not-the-masterminds-636cd253731b)
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